Toucans Meeting 4

07:29PM Mar 22, 2009 in category General by Danielle Paldino

(6:46:17 PM) John Bigham entered the room.
(6:46:17 PM) Chase Thomas entered the room.
(6:47:38 PM) Alicia Bieringer entered the room.
(6:48:00 PM) Danielle Paldino entered the room.
(6:48:06 PM) Alicia Bieringer: hey john
(6:48:13 PM) John Bigham: hi all
(6:48:14 PM) Danielle Paldino: hi, errybody
(6:48:26 PM) Alicia Bieringer: any idea where matt is?
(6:48:29 PM) John Bigham: nope
(6:48:33 PM) John Bigham: lemme call him
(6:49:08 PM) Chase Thomas: probably forgot--i know i wouldve if i hadnt
made a calendar event for it in my phone
(6:49:24 PM) Alicia Bieringer: yeah i had a reminder in gmail
(6:49:34 PM) John Bigham: he'll be on in a few
(6:49:46 PM) Chase Thomas: should we wait or just go ahead?
(6:50:09 PM) John Bigham: we can start
(6:50:15 PM) Danielle Paldino: let's get started, I don't think we have a
whole lot to go over today.
(6:50:19 PM) John Bigham: what do we need to get done tonight?
(6:50:26 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright, did everyone look at the proposal
gradin?
(6:50:28 PM) Danielle Paldino: She clearly wants us to narrow down the
topic a little.
(6:50:46 PM) John Bigham: where can i find the graded proposal?
(6:50:53 PM) Danielle Paldino: In your vista. I
(6:50:58 PM) John Bigham: k
(6:51:00 PM) Danielle Paldino: will copy/ paste her response.
(6:51:09 PM) Danielle Paldino: - I like the look and feel of this
proposal. It has some simple touches that add visual appeal.
- I am glad you specifically addressed the audience in your goals.
- Your objectives section is more of an outline. Objectives should be what
you are trying to solve with this proposal.
- Including some preliminary resources helps lend credibility to the
proposal, and confidence you can complete the work.
- Your topic is really broad. I think if you cover the full scope you are
suggesting, you will have a pretty shallow paper. Consider picking certain
aspects to focus in on.
(6:51:34 PM) John Bigham: k
(6:51:37 PM) Alicia Bieringer: so what aspects should we focus on?
(6:52:07 PM) Chase Thomas: well, we could focus on specific fuels
(6:52:18 PM) Chase Thomas: or we could focus on one aspect of them all
(6:52:23 PM) Danielle Paldino: Is it just that the 5 we picked was too broad?
(6:52:38 PM) Danielle Paldino: Like what?
(6:52:59 PM) Danielle Paldino: The environmental benefit? We would
probably be able to find a ton of info out there about it.
(6:53:04 PM) Chase Thomas: like the production, or the comparison of
"green-ness" compared to our current fuels,...
(6:53:07 PM) Danielle Paldino: Just leave out the cost/ economics of it?
(6:53:26 PM) Alicia Bieringer: we could do that
(6:53:35 PM) Chase Thomas: yea, that's more of the hot topic about them all
(6:53:40 PM) Danielle Paldino: If we do that, we could each take one of
the 5 that we picked, and do the major research of them.
(6:53:46 PM) Chase Thomas: focus on the environmental aspect
(6:53:54 PM) Danielle Paldino: Are we just going to do a powerpoint
presentation for our presentation?
(6:53:57 PM) Chase Thomas: thatd be an easy way to break it up
(6:53:59 PM) John Bigham: sure
(6:54:12 PM) Chase Thomas: ppt works
(6:54:13 PM) John Bigham: i like powerpoint.. i'm good at that stuff :D
(6:54:22 PM) Chase Thomas: haha
(6:54:24 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright sounds good to me
(6:54:31 PM) Danielle Paldino: me too
(6:54:41 PM) Chase Thomas: dibs on hydrogen fuel
(6:54:43 PM) Chase Thomas: :-D
(6:54:50 PM) Danielle Paldino: I'd like biodiesel!
(6:55:00 PM) Alicia Bieringer: what's left
(6:55:07 PM) Chase Thomas: electric
(6:55:09 PM) Danielle Paldino: electric/ hybrid?
(6:55:16 PM) Alicia Bieringer: k i'll do that
(6:55:24 PM) Danielle Paldino: uhm... I'll open up the paper and see what
else we put, lol
(6:55:35 PM) Chase Thomas: clean diesel, ethanol, hydrogen, biodiesel, and
electric (including hybrids).
(6:55:38 PM) Chase Thomas: from the paper
(6:55:44 PM) Danielle Paldino: ok, good!
(6:55:48 PM) Matthew Moran entered the room.
(6:55:52 PM) Matthew Moran: Sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry im late
(6:55:58 PM) Danielle Paldino: hi matt
(6:56:00 PM) Alicia Bieringer: for shame for shame
(6:56:01 PM) Matthew Moran: hello
(6:56:08 PM) Chase Thomas: voted off
(6:56:12 PM) Alicia Bieringer: lol
(6:56:14 PM) Matthew Moran: how's it goin guys? I was kayaking on Lake
Raleigh
(6:56:15 PM) John Bigham: i'll do clean diesel
(6:56:16 PM) Matthew Moran: sorry
(6:56:21 PM) John Bigham: FUN
(6:56:22 PM) Matthew Moran: I'll do man power
(6:56:23 PM) Matthew Moran: lol
(6:56:27 PM) John Bigham: GAY
(6:56:28 PM) Alicia Bieringer: haha
(6:56:30 PM) Chase Thomas: haha
(6:56:31 PM) Matthew Moran: hahahha shut it john
(6:56:32 PM) Alicia Bieringer: you're left with ethanol matt
(6:56:34 PM) Matthew Moran: shit
(6:56:37 PM) Matthew Moran: i hate corn
(6:56:39 PM) Matthew Moran: lol
(6:56:42 PM) Chase Thomas: lol
(6:56:56 PM) Alicia Bieringer: hahaha
(6:57:05 PM) Matthew Moran: I'm researching ethanol?
(6:57:07 PM) Danielle Paldino: roast it on the grill. you'll like it better
(6:57:07 PM) Chase Thomas: so, to catch you up, she said our topic is too
broad
(6:57:20 PM) Chase Thomas: so were gonna focus on the environmental
comparisons of the 5 fuels
(6:57:28 PM) Chase Thomas: and to break that up, were each doing one of them
(6:57:47 PM) John Bigham: in powerpoint
(6:58:01 PM) Matthew Moran: I have to make an ethanol power point?
(6:58:04 PM) John Bigham: then I can combine and refine them all if thats
cool with everyone else?
(6:58:08 PM) Matthew Moran: ok
(6:58:16 PM) Danielle Paldino: I'll mess with backgrounds in powerpoint
tomorrow to match the proposal if everyone is okay with that (somewhat
girly) theme
(6:58:21 PM) Chase Thomas: are we just doing the ppt of them? or the paper?
(6:58:26 PM) Matthew Moran: when u need the powerpoint?
(6:58:37 PM) John Bigham: its not due for 2 weeks i think
(6:58:40 PM) Danielle Paldino: it's due next friday, right? the 3rd-ish?
(6:58:48 PM) John Bigham: yea
(6:58:49 PM) Alicia Bieringer: yeah
(6:59:10 PM) Chase Thomas: yea, 4/3
(6:59:11 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright so how many slides should we each do?
(6:59:19 PM) Chase Thomas: 3-5?
(6:59:19 PM) Danielle Paldino: Let's get enough info so we each have a
good page (or 2) for the powerpoint. We dont want that to be too long.
(6:59:34 PM) John Bigham: yea
(6:59:37 PM) Chase Thomas: you don't wanna overwhelm each slide though
(6:59:52 PM) John Bigham: 2 or so slides on each plus some summary and
intro slides
(7:00:00 PM) Danielle Paldino: Maybe have one page about how it's created
and page two about how it benefits the environment (major factors-- 4-5
points?)
(7:00:03 PM) Matthew Moran: Power point should hit all the highlights on
the efficiency of the fuels?
(7:00:08 PM) Chase Thomas: that works
(7:00:43 PM) Chase Thomas: i'd say maybe touch on efficiency, but focus on
environmental aspects
(7:00:51 PM) Matthew Moran: k
(7:00:52 PM) Matthew Moran: so we're each making a powerpoint, are we each
writing a ssection of a paper?
(7:00:53 PM) Chase Thomas: so she can see our focus of the paper
(7:01:05 PM) Alicia Bieringer: that would probably work well for the paper
too
(7:01:15 PM) Alicia Bieringer: but we'll worry abou thtat later
(7:01:15 PM) Chase Thomas: yea
(7:01:21 PM) Danielle Paldino: ya it would
(7:01:22 PM) Chase Thomas: agreed--its not due till 26th
(7:01:41 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright, so who wants to be
leader/coordinator this time
(7:01:59 PM) Matthew Moran: John does
(7:02:02 PM) John Bigham: i'll do leadr since i'll have the final powerpoint
(7:02:16 PM) Chase Thomas: good call
(7:02:19 PM) Alicia Bieringer: lol it's supposed to be 2 different people
each time i think...
(7:02:26 PM) Alicia Bieringer: but obviously one will overlap
(7:02:30 PM) Danielle Paldino: sounds good.
(7:02:45 PM) Chase Thomas: i'll take one of the roles if needbe
(7:03:24 PM) Alicia Bieringer: i'm just saying, i think i read that
everyone has to be one of them at least once
(7:03:41 PM) Chase Thomas: who were they last time?
(7:03:44 PM) Alicia Bieringer: me and john
(7:03:50 PM) Danielle Paldino: we should meet again 3/27 if we go by the
made-up schedule of work, and hand over our slides to John.
(7:04:16 PM) Chase Thomas: well, john can overlap this time and i'll take
the other role
(7:04:16 PM) John Bigham: sure
(7:04:37 PM) Danielle Paldino: ok
(7:04:43 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright sounds good
(7:04:49 PM) Matthew Moran: awesome
(7:04:54 PM) Alicia Bieringer: so 3/27 is friday
(7:05:05 PM) Danielle Paldino: that'll leave me and matt for the final
paper? fun
(7:05:06 PM) Matthew Moran: power point by friday at what time
(7:05:10 PM) Matthew Moran: oh yea
(7:05:33 PM) Chase Thomas: friday early evening?
(7:05:37 PM) Matthew Moran: 4-5ish
(7:05:40 PM) Chase Thomas: yea
(7:05:40 PM) Matthew Moran: k
(7:05:41 PM) Alicia Bieringer: yeah that works
(7:05:42 PM) Matthew Moran: Done
(7:05:52 PM) John Bigham: k
(7:05:53 PM) Chase Thomas: anyone have a preference?
(7:05:57 PM) Danielle Paldino: not for me, sorry... I don't get home from
work till like 5:30.
(7:06:11 PM) John Bigham: how bout a quick meeting at 6
(7:06:13 PM) John Bigham: ?
(7:06:19 PM) Chase Thomas: that'd work
(7:06:21 PM) Alicia Bieringer: that sounds good. it should only be like 10
min
(7:06:25 PM) Chase Thomas: yea
(7:06:33 PM) Danielle Paldino: I can always just send my stuff over though
and y'all can send me the transcript. All we'll do after that is do edits,
right?
(7:06:38 PM) Danielle Paldino: or 6 will work too
(7:07:00 PM) Chase Thomas: alright, friday at 6
(7:07:10 PM) Chase Thomas: anything else?
(7:07:16 PM) Danielle Paldino: should we have all our slides sent to John
by then?
(7:07:20 PM) Matthew Moran: yea
(7:07:32 PM) Danielle Paldino: ok np
(7:07:34 PM) Chase Thomas: i'll send mine at 5:59
(7:07:37 PM) Matthew Moran: Before the meeting that way he can have a look
at them b4 the meeting
(7:07:37 PM) Danielle Paldino: lol
(7:07:39 PM) Matthew Moran: lol
(7:07:58 PM) John Bigham: you can just send it to me whenever
(7:08:07 PM) John Bigham: i'll compile them over the weekend
(7:08:22 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright that works
(7:08:31 PM) Alicia Bieringer: so friday at 6. we're done?
(7:08:46 PM) Danielle Paldino: yep sounds good to me
(7:08:52 PM) Matthew Moran: yup
(7:08:59 PM) Alicia Bieringer: alright talk to you all then!
(7:09:07 PM) Danielle Paldino: bye, all
(7:09:09 PM) Alicia Bieringer: buhbye
(7:09:10 PM) John Bigham: laterz
(7:09:19 PM) Danielle Paldino: John sending around the text?
(7:09:30 PM) John Bigham: can do
(7:09:33 PM) Alicia Bieringer: i think that's chase's job now...
(7:09:34 PM) Alicia Bieringer: lol
(7:09:37 PM) Chase Thomas: on it
(7:09:38 PM) John Bigham: oh yea
(7:09:48 PM) Danielle Paldino: ok, good! laters
(7:09:51 PM) Chase Thomas: see ya
(7:09:55 PM) Alicia Bieringer: bye!
(7:09:57 PM) Danielle Paldino left the room.
(7:09:57 PM) Alicia Bieringer left the room.
(7:10:04 PM) Matthew Moran left the room.
(7:10:09 PM) John Bigham left the room.

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Toucans Meeting 3

06:34PM Mar 22, 2009 in category General by Danielle Paldino

7:02:30 PM Rafiki2588: hey
7:02:36 PM Alicia1741: hey guys
7:02:38 PM John: hello
7:03:01 PM Alicia1741: has danielle gotten aim yet?
7:03:14 PM Rafiki2588: i sent her an email
7:03:26 PM John: she had one, but the software she uses wouldnt let her
join a chat
7:03:43 PM John: maybe she can download another program
7:03:53 PM John: keep checkin your email matt
7:04:02 PM ctsoccer13: hey
7:04:08 PM Alicia1741: hey hey
7:04:09 PM John: hey chase
7:05:02 PM John: so whats the plan?
7:05:14 PM Alicia1741: should we just e-mail our proposals so we can look
at em all?
7:05:16 PM Rafiki2588: what do you guys think of this brief intro
7:05:20 PM Rafiki2588: One of the biggest challenges facing the United
States today is the growing demand for fossil fuels, the emissions they
produce, and the greater dependence on foreign nations to provide oil.
Finding suitable alternatives to replace our current generation of gas and
diesel fueled engines and in the mean time excellent technologies to
supplement the supply of fossil fuels should be a top priority.
7:05:40 PM Rafiki2588: the second sentence is worded funny i think
7:06:02 PM Rafiki2588: it could be worded better, rather
7:06:25 PM Alicia1741: ok, i think i'm on a completely different
wavelength than everyone else
7:06:30 PM Rafiki2588: uh oh
7:06:31 PM ctsoccer13: haha
7:06:31 PM Rafiki2588: why
7:06:33 PM ctsoccer13: how so?
7:06:39 PM Alicia1741: did you guys see the e-mails between me and danielle?
7:06:46 PM Rafiki2588: yea
7:07:01 PM ctsoccer13: nope
7:07:09 PM John: sorry about that chase
7:07:21 PM John: i screwd up the first email and yours was wrong
7:07:21 PM Rafiki2588: we're proposing our research idea to our teacher,
that's the goal for tonight
7:07:33 PM John: so it didnt include you in the replys
7:07:34 PM Alicia1741: so... did you write your proposal the way i did,
where you're proposing that we write our project on alternative fuels, or
did you write it like danielle where you're proposing that alternative
fuels are in demand?
7:07:40 PM Alicia1741: ok
7:07:58 PM ctsoccer13: no biggy
7:08:13 PM Alicia1741: cause the way i interpreted it, i didn't really
write much about the alternative fuels themselves.
7:08:25 PM ctsoccer13: yea, so in the intro we should present the problem
and why we should even be considering alternative fuels
7:08:37 PM Rafiki2588: well i just made a list of bullet points to include
to make the research sound like a good idea which does include a brief
summary of the intended topic
7:08:47 PM ctsoccer13: i didn't fully write it out, i just... yea, i made
bullet points
7:08:58 PM ctsoccer13: wrote ideas of what kinda stuff should be where
7:08:58 PM Alicia1741: this is what i started mine with (it's not that
strong, but it got the point across): We request permission to write our
final project on alternative automobile energy sources.  As a group, we
discussed all of our ideas for the final project to come up with one that
would be best for all of us.  We are all very familiar with the world’s
search for alternative fuels for vehicles, and it is a topic that we are
highly interested in.
7:09:17 PM John: FYI im not in the convo right now... i'm workin on helpin
danielle
7:09:38 PM Rafiki2588: We need to answer a few questions:  Why is this
research important?  Why should we "devote resources to it"?  Is this a
good, fruitful topic?
7:09:39 PM Alicia1741: she specified that we need to say why we picked our
topic
7:09:44 PM Alicia1741: yeah
7:09:45 PM ctsoccer13: i think it's supposed to be more about presenting
the problem or research topic moreso than asking for permission
7:09:56 PM Rafiki2588: i agree with u chase
7:10:08 PM Rafiki2588: we need to tell her why this research is important
7:10:09 PM Alicia1741: ok then i interpreted it a little different
7:10:17 PM Rafiki2588: we need to sell this idea
7:10:30 PM ctsoccer13: yea... so in the intro we should talk about how the
current fuels are polluting and fossil fuels are running out
7:10:35 PM Rafiki2588: yeaaa
7:10:48 PM ctsoccer13: and the demand is getting to be too great for any
one fuel
7:10:55 PM Rafiki2588: right
7:10:56 PM Alicia1741: k. i left that for the "problem" section
7:10:57 PM ctsoccer13: then present the approach of researching other fuels
7:11:36 PM Rafiki2588: and while we're developing a fossil fuel
replacement, we should simultaneously be looking for good supplements to
ease demand on fossil fuels and begin to make the transition to a
non-fossil fuel economy
7:11:51 PM ctsoccer13: yea
7:12:12 PM ctsoccer13: but, as far as the introduction, it should just be
a brief overview of the problem at hand
7:12:19 PM Rafiki2588: here's a quick thing i wrote earlier.  Dont count
it for style just content
7:12:25 PM Rafiki2588: We’ll research four alternatives to gasoline
including clean diesel, ethanol, hydrogen, and electric as well as hybrids
of these.   For each case we’ll examine infrastructure requirements, such
as filling stations and production, also we’ll study the process and
requirements for integrating these new fuels into existing auto
technology.  In other words, how each of these fuels can be used in a
regular car; from onboard fuel storage to efficient and practical engines.
 New maintenance demands of these new systems and the difficulty with
which these new vehicles will be introduced to mainstream consumers will
be researched as well.
7:12:26 PM ctsoccer13: pull in some general facts about the increasing
demand, decreasing supply
7:12:30 PM Rafiki2588: yes
7:12:56 PM ctsoccer13: what section is that for?
7:13:01 PM ctsoccer13: objectives?
7:13:08 PM Rafiki2588: i dunno i guess That's a good objectives section
7:13:22 PM ctsoccer13: yea... i keep reverting back to that one proposal
example she gave us
7:13:26 PM Rafiki2588: i mean the language is a bit rough but it can be
polished
7:13:29 PM ctsoccer13: as far as structure
7:13:31 PM Rafiki2588: ah
7:13:37 PM Rafiki2588: which one
7:13:49 PM ctsoccer13: i think it was the alternative fuels one
7:14:04 PM ctsoccer13: it had an intro, then more elaboration on the
problem, then objectives
7:14:16 PM Rafiki2588: yea
7:14:33 PM Rafiki2588: oh, i havent read it yet
7:14:56 PM Alicia1741: alright, we can definitely use your intro matt
after we clean it up a bit. it looks good
7:15:04 PM Rafiki2588: k
7:15:44 PM John: YAY
7:15:48 PM dlpaldino: sorry, everyone!
7:15:48 PM Rafiki2588: hey danielle
7:15:50 PM Rafiki2588: no worries
7:15:55 PM Alicia1741: hey danielle, glad you made it!
7:15:55 PM ctsoccer13: hey danielle
7:15:55 PM John: ok, someone bring us up to speed please???
7:16:09 PM ctsoccer13: we were talking about the purpose of the proposal
7:16:30 PM ctsoccer13: and matt and i were thinking it should be more of a
presentation of the problem with an answer as to why we should research it
7:16:50 PM Rafiki2588: we're selling the idea of doing this research which
involves a bit of back ground
7:17:06 PM Rafiki2588: we're trying to convey why this research must be done
7:17:12 PM ctsoccer13: right...
7:17:14 PM dlpaldino: Does anyone have a sample they wrote up?  If so can
you email it around? I can send mine tomorrow.
7:17:17 PM Rafiki2588: ease demand, supplements to fossil fuels
7:17:31 PM ctsoccer13: and i kept reverting back to the proposal she
provided about alternative fuels as structure
7:17:38 PM ctsoccer13: subconsciously
7:17:58 PM Rafiki2588: Damnit how can pizza hut be out of personal pan
pizzas?
7:18:05 PM Rafiki2588: sorry, im a bit off topic
7:18:10 PM dlpaldino: lol. that's lame
7:18:13 PM Rafiki2588: yea it is
7:18:19 PM Alicia1741: lol
7:18:22 PM Rafiki2588: We’ll research four alternatives to gasoline
including clean diesel, ethanol, hydrogen, and electric as well as hybrids
of these.   For each case we’ll examine infrastructure requirements, such
as filling stations and production, also we’ll study the process and
requirements for integrating these new fuels into existing auto
technology.  In other words, how each of these fuels can be used in a
regular car; from onboard fuel storage to efficient and practical engines.
 New maintenance demands of these new systems and the difficulty with
which these new vehicles will be introduced to mainstream consumers will
be researched as well.
7:18:34 PM Rafiki2588: thats what i wrote, danielle
7:18:49 PM Rafiki2588: for an objectives section
7:19:07 PM Rafiki2588: and this is a shotty version of a brief intro
7:19:15 PM Rafiki2588: One of the biggest challenges facing the United
States today is the growing demand for fossil fuels, the emissions they
produce, and the greater dependence on foreign nations to provide oil.
Finding suitable alternatives to replace our current generation of gas and
diesel fueled engines and in the mean time excellent technologies to
supplement the supply of fossil fuels should be a top priority.
7:20:12 PM dlpaldino: Sounds good.  We need to get all our ideas into one
document, format it, and pass it around for editing, I think.
7:20:30 PM dlpaldino: Since we have to turn it in on Fri. we don't have a
lot of time.
7:22:10 PM Alicia1741: so if we use that first paragraph for objectives,
put it in bullet format, :
- research four alternatives to gasoline including clean diesel, ethanol,
hydrogen, and electric as well as hybrids of these
- examine infrastructure requirements, such as filling stations and
production, for each
- study the process and requirements for integrating these new fuels into
existing auto technology
-research new maintenance demands of these new systems and the difficulty
with which these new vehicles will be introduced to mainstream consumers

7:22:31 PM Rafiki2588: excellent!
7:22:42 PM dlpaldino: agreed, I like that.
7:22:47 PM Rafiki2588: we can easily fill up 2 pages in no time if we get
some more content flowing here
7:22:50 PM Alicia1741: alright, one section down!
7:22:59 PM Rafiki2588: lets concentrate on the problem section
7:23:08 PM Rafiki2588: lets try not to call it that cuz thats plaigarism
7:23:15 PM ctsoccer13: i was working on tweaking matt's intro he wrote up
7:23:21 PM Rafiki2588: cool
7:23:21 PM John: plus we need the schedule
7:23:26 PM John: and thats about half a page
7:23:38 PM Rafiki2588: Alright hell thats already 2 full pages of stuff
7:23:43 PM dlpaldino: I worked up a tentative schedule (needs some filler,
likely) but it's at work.
7:23:44 PM Rafiki2588: we're rollin now
7:23:45 PM Rafiki2588: this is good
7:23:47 PM Rafiki2588: lets see it
7:24:00 PM dlpaldino: sry, have to send it tomorrow
7:24:24 PM Rafiki2588: why
7:24:52 PM dlpaldino: b/c it's on my work comp. and I didn't bring it home
w/ me today, LOL
7:24:59 PM dlpaldino: like a dummy
7:25:09 PM Rafiki2588: lol
7:25:25 PM Rafiki2588: dont worry about it, can you remember what was on
it?  Maybe we can throw something together right now
7:25:51 PM dlpaldino: it was dates and frames of times things were due,
when we would review and edit the document, etc.
7:26:04 PM dlpaldino: prolly abt 8 lines, table format.
7:26:32 PM John: yea, i wouldnt worry about the schedule too much
7:26:53 PM dlpaldino: we can add it and review it tomorrow
7:26:58 PM John: i dont foresee that taking very long
7:26:59 PM Rafiki2588: ok
7:27:01 PM ctsoccer13: The United States alone consumes around 20 million
barrels of gasoline every day, most of which is imported from other
countries.  With oil not being a renewable resource, it's obvious that our
supplies will eventually deplete.  Also, the burning of fossil fuels has
been found to have adverse effects on our environment.  Thus, one of the
biggest challenges facing the United States today is the growing demand
for fossil fuels, the emissions they produce, and the greater dependence
on foreign nations to provide oil.  Finding suitable alternatives to
replace our current generation of gas and diesel fueled engines and in the
mean time excellent technologies to supplement the supply of fossil fuels
should be a top priority.
7:27:20 PM ctsoccer13: mainly just added to lead in and present the
problem a bit better so far
7:27:22 PM Rafiki2588: Awesome!
7:27:38 PM ctsoccer13: couldnt really find a problem with what you've
written for it
7:27:46 PM Rafiki2588: I have to run up to hillsborough street real quick
I will be back in no time flat
7:27:49 PM Rafiki2588: its good
7:27:55 PM Rafiki2588: i like the lead in
7:27:59 PM Rafiki2588: facts are sweet
7:28:13 PM Alicia1741: that looks really good
7:28:31 PM ctsoccer13: just did a quick search--found that first fact on
wikianswers
7:28:38 PM Rafiki2588: sweeeeet
7:28:39 PM Rafiki2588: lol
7:28:46 PM Alicia1741: yay wikipedia! lol
7:28:53 PM ctsoccer13: haha
7:29:00 PM dlpaldino: be sure to reference it!!
7:29:04 PM Rafiki2588: wikipedia rocks my world
7:29:08 PM John: how bout this... does anybody feel like their proposal
could be used as a good foundation?
7:29:09 PM dlpaldino: is someone taking this all down as one document?
7:29:22 PM Alicia1741: mine's not really relevant
7:29:48 PM ctsoccer13: i think the first thing we need to do in the
proposal is present the issue, then present how we'll research it, etc...
7:29:50 PM dlpaldino: Y'all saw mine about half done already.  I focused
mainly on biodiesel, but changed that a bit after the conversation Alicia
and I had.
7:29:55 PM Alicia1741: i made it more about convincing her to let us write
the project on alternative fuels than about the actualy problem of fossil
fuels
7:29:59 PM ctsoccer13: so i was trying to form that into the first paragraph
7:30:12 PM John: k
7:30:17 PM ctsoccer13: brief, shocking facts to grab the reader's attention
7:30:41 PM ctsoccer13: and, if you copy that paragraph, change it to 10
million--that was a typo
7:30:47 PM dlpaldino: Alicia, I think that's what we're really supposed to
be focusing on.  But we do need to state some stuff abt. the issue.
7:31:07 PM dlpaldino: I think we should all send around what we have.  I
can take it tomorrow and edit it into one document and send it around for
review.
7:31:43 PM ctsoccer13: i was saying earlier, i really didn't do any formal
writing--i just wrote bullet points about what sort of stuff we should put
where
7:32:12 PM dlpaldino: that's still something down that we can incorporate
into a document
7:32:17 PM ctsoccer13: ok
7:32:29 PM Alicia1741: that might be a lot of work danielle
7:32:38 PM Alicia1741: don't wanna leave you to do it all!
7:32:59 PM John: if ya'll wanna send all you have to me, i'll throw
something together tonite and send it around tomorrow so you can all edit
it
7:33:02 PM dlpaldino: LOL, I don't expect it to be too bad.  I do this
crap (doc. editing) all the time.
7:33:45 PM John: agreed
7:34:07 PM John: i just feel kinda bad.. i dont have much, just research
7:34:15 PM Alicia1741: are you sure you guys are ok with that?
7:34:38 PM Alicia1741: i mean... i thought mine was good but. like i said,
it's not really what we're talking about doing anymore lol
7:34:42 PM ctsoccer13: i'm gonna at least elaborate a bit more before i
send mine around
7:34:59 PM dlpaldino: I can't think of a better way to do it, really.
Posting bits and pieces is good, but too easy to duplicate things and put
more info than necessary.
7:35:09 PM ctsoccer13: i really have bullets saying stuff like "talk about
pollution -- ozone layer, greenhouse effect, water supplies"
7:35:31 PM ctsoccer13: so, i'll at least get some facts written out before
i send it
7:35:34 PM dlpaldino: but that's good-- we don't have to go into details
in this proposal (I don't think!!)
7:35:52 PM dlpaldino: or, well... TOO into the details.
7:36:00 PM Alicia1741: yeah that's true
7:36:02 PM ctsoccer13: agreed
7:36:17 PM ctsoccer13: i thnk we do need to hit the main topics we'll be
discussing and researching though
7:36:48 PM John: ok... i think i have a plan......
7:36:53 PM dlpaldino: agreed.  so let's lay THAT out here, and I'll make
sure when I get all the stuff together to put that in the objectives.
7:36:56 PM dlpaldino: Ok, what??
7:37:26 PM John: chase...what exactly do you have done as of now?
7:37:34 PM John: and you too alicia?
7:37:59 PM Alicia1741: i wrote a little over a page as a mini-proposal
7:38:01 PM Alicia1741: but like i said...
7:38:09 PM Alicia1741: it's not exactly what we're looking for
7:38:21 PM John: doenst matter...
7:38:24 PM Alicia1741: my qualifications section might be useful
7:38:28 PM John: k
7:38:35 PM John: what about you chase?
7:38:48 PM ctsoccer13: Intro
-shocking fact (grab reader's attention)
-brief explanation of the issue
-state the problem we'll research

-In-depth about issue--include some facts
   - talk about pollution
        -ozone layer
        -greenhouse effect
        -watersupplies
        -acid rain
   - depletion of oil supplies
      - increasing gas prices
          - has an effect on economy (recession)
      - no other form of fuel for transportation
   - reliance on other countries
       - leaves US open to be manipulated

- talk about how we'll research it
-schedule


7:39:03 PM ctsoccer13: ideas, mainly
7:39:03 PM John: k
7:39:13 PM John: heres the plan...
7:39:49 PM John: chase, turn some of those ideas into complete thoughts
then send it to me
7:39:57 PM John: alicia, send me what you have
7:40:02 PM John: i already have matts
7:40:10 PM John: my info is just raw research
7:40:25 PM John: i'll throw it together in a rough copy, clean it up a lil
7:40:27 PM dlpaldino: I've got practically a whole doc. that needs.. more
stuff
7:40:40 PM John: send it to danielle tomorrow AM
7:40:53 PM John: and you can combine and clean it up
7:40:59 PM dlpaldino: I'll incorporate them together.  Sounds good.
7:41:03 PM John: send it around and we can all edit
7:41:11 PM John: thats work for everyone?
7:41:16 PM ctsoccer13: yup
7:41:17 PM dlpaldino: works for me
7:41:19 PM Alicia1741: sounds good to me if you guys are ok with it
7:41:24 PM John: awesome
7:41:26 PM ctsoccer13: i'll form ideas and send it to you tonight
7:41:32 PM John: cool
7:42:02 PM dlpaldino: I should be able to get it back out by 3 tomorrow, I
think.  So that should give us enough time in the evening to have everyone
critique it
7:42:17 PM John: k
7:42:18 PM dlpaldino: hopefully earlier
7:42:35 PM John: do we wanna have one more meeting before we turn it in?
7:42:42 PM John: or just use email?
7:42:46 PM Alicia1741: it'd probably be a good idea...
7:42:52 PM Alicia1741: cause we all might have different edits
7:42:55 PM dlpaldino: tomorrow evening?  That would be fine with me.
7:43:17 PM John: how bout this....
7:43:24 PM dlpaldino: I'll turn track changes on before I send it out.
It's be nice if we could pass it from one person to the next but that
might take too long.
7:43:38 PM ctsoccer13: yea...
7:43:39 PM John: ok
7:43:44 PM John: i was just gonna say...
7:43:52 PM John: send it one person at a time in series
7:44:00 PM John: so you always get eh most recent copy
7:44:09 PM John: *the
7:44:11 PM dlpaldino: lol!  well, let's try it.
7:44:17 PM Alicia1741: i think it's a good idea
7:44:27 PM Alicia1741: should we do it by when people have time?
7:44:37 PM dlpaldino: yes.
7:44:37 PM Alicia1741: my thursday night schedules are kind of weird
7:44:52 PM dlpaldino: what about the afternoon, then?  I could send it to
you first.
7:45:07 PM Alicia1741: i have class at 3:50
7:45:23 PM Alicia1741: i have a break from 5:05-7:30
7:45:36 PM Alicia1741: so if i could get it by like 5:30 i could have it
out by 6:30
7:45:38 PM dlpaldino: ok, what about before 3:50?
7:45:50 PM ctsoccer13: i'm in class 2:20 - 6:30
7:45:56 PM Alicia1741: that'd be fine, could you get it done by 2:30 or so?
7:46:04 PM John: im done at 1
7:46:23 PM ctsoccer13: yea, i can edit it by then
7:46:40 PM dlpaldino: Yep.  I'll do that and send it to Alicia.  Then, she
sends it to Lionheart (lol).  Chase last? before we meet?
7:46:54 PM dlpaldino: Maybe rafiki will be available before him.
7:47:07 PM John: rafiki is matt
7:47:09 PM John: im john
7:47:12 PM John:
7:47:12 PM Alicia1741: do you know matt's schedule, john?
7:47:15 PM dlpaldino: I thought so!
7:47:18 PM John: lemme call him
7:47:27 PM dlpaldino: But didn't want to screw names up, lol
7:47:58 PM John: hes done after 4.30
7:48:07 PM Alicia1741: alright so i'll send it to you first
7:48:10 PM Alicia1741: you send it to matt
7:48:14 PM Alicia1741: and matt will send it to chase
7:48:25 PM dlpaldino: aright, awesome.  then we get on here at like 8ish?
7:48:26 PM John: k
7:48:36 PM Alicia1741: i have class till 845
7:48:45 PM Alicia1741: is 9 too late?
7:48:47 PM John: test to study for too right?
7:48:51 PM Alicia1741: yes ugh
7:48:52 PM Alicia1741: 2
7:48:54 PM Alicia1741: tests
7:49:12 PM John: we could just get on friday afternoon before we submit?
7:49:15 PM dlpaldino: dang, that sucks.  Just email then? That'd be fine
with me.
7:49:20 PM Alicia1741: that would work best for me
7:49:20 PM John: k
7:49:24 PM Alicia1741: either way
7:49:32 PM dlpaldino: I won't be able to get on during the day at all (work).
7:49:44 PM Alicia1741: alright
7:49:45 PM John: k
7:49:50 PM John: so email that night
7:50:07 PM Alicia1741: k, chase can e-mail out the final copy
7:50:19 PM John: alright
7:50:26 PM Rafiki2588: hey
7:50:36 PM dlpaldino: works for me.  we can comment from there and make
any last changes
7:50:48 PM Alicia1741: sounds good!
7:50:54 PM John: FYI Alicia, since you were designated proposal leader,
you have to submit online
7:51:08 PM Alicia1741: yay! lol
7:51:15 PM Alicia1741: "leader"... hardly haha
7:51:26 PM John:
7:51:43 PM dlpaldino: we all have to do something, too, some email
communication to her, don't we?  Or am I thinking of the presentation
portion?
7:51:56 PM Alicia1741: ahh yes we have to write a memo
7:52:14 PM dlpaldino: but that's individual work, right? (I don't want to
go look it up)
7:52:26 PM John: yea
7:52:30 PM Alicia1741: yes it is
7:52:39 PM dlpaldino: aright
7:52:55 PM ctsoccer13: sorry, IM froze up on me
7:53:06 PM dlpaldino: So we've got plans then?
7:53:18 PM John: i believe so
7:53:25 PM Alicia1741: yep yep
7:53:30 PM John: i'll send a transcript to everyone again as well
7:53:34 PM ctsoccer13: email tonight, edit tomorrow, submit friday?
7:53:41 PM John: yup
7:53:51 PM Alicia1741: sounds good
7:53:53 PM dlpaldino: yep, it's plans!  we're done here?
7:54:00 PM John: yes'm
7:54:02 PM Alicia1741: yep! have a good night everyone
7:54:05 PM Alicia1741: byeeee
7:54:09 PM dlpaldino: later, all!
7:54:11 PM ctsoccer13: see ya

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Toucans Meeting 2

06:34PM Mar 22, 2009 in category General by Danielle Paldino

7:57:35 PM Rafiki2588: Good evening to you, sir
7:57:41 PM John: heyo
7:57:52 PM Rafiki2588: and where is madam Berringer?
7:57:59 PM John: not sure
7:58:02 PM John: let wait a bit
7:59:07 PM Rafiki2588: i noticed that wasn't "let's"  (Let us) it was
"let" (Let me [as in just you])
7:59:15 PM ctsoccer13: hi all
7:59:17 PM Rafiki2588: sup chase
7:59:20 PM John: hey
7:59:40 PM John: we're gonna wait a lil before we start, to see if alicia
shows
7:59:57 PM ctsoccer13: ok, that's fine
8:02:01 PM Rafiki2588: john where the hell did u put my highlighter
8:02:12 PM Rafiki2588: ahhahhaa alicia just checked out
8:02:48 PM John: i see that, sell danielle said she wasn't gonna make it
so i guess we can start and hold another meeting later this week
8:02:56 PM John: well, not sell
8:04:05 PM Rafiki2588: ok
8:04:10 PM John: Well,  we need to come up with a subject to write this
proposal on... any ideas?
8:04:27 PM ctsoccer13: well, it says something that interests you
8:04:31 PM ctsoccer13: so what are you guys interested in?
8:04:33 PM Rafiki2588: Airplanes sex and sleep
8:04:54 PM ctsoccer13: the effects of high altitudes on the performance of
sex and sleep
8:05:06 PM Rafiki2588: sounds good to me
8:05:08 PM ctsoccer13: haha
8:05:21 PM John: possible, but might be kinda hard to find info on that
8:05:26 PM Rafiki2588: hard for sure
8:05:28 PM John: hey alicia
8:05:31 PM Rafiki2588: HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
8:05:33 PM ctsoccer13: haha
8:05:33 PM Rafiki2588: what's up alicia
8:05:38 PM ctsoccer13: hey alicia
8:05:43 PM Alicia1741: heyy sorry i was trying to log into vista for
forever lol
8:05:57 PM Rafiki2588: vista went off the reservation...
8:06:01 PM Rafiki2588: ...again
8:06:08 PM Alicia1741: yeeeah i noticed
8:06:27 PM Alicia1741: so any ideas so far
8:06:30 PM Alicia1741: ?
8:06:30 PM Rafiki2588: nope
8:06:31 PM ctsoccer13: so, were talking about what interests us
8:06:34 PM ctsoccer13: brainstorming
8:06:36 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:06:39 PM ctsoccer13: whatcha got, alicia?
8:06:45 PM Alicia1741: ick
8:06:47 PM Alicia1741: haha
8:06:56 PM John: hhhmmmm......
8:07:09 PM ctsoccer13: well, we've come up with airplanes, sex, and sleep
so far
8:07:22 PM Alicia1741: haha nice
8:07:24 PM Rafiki2588: let's propose to build an airport somewhere really
controversial
8:07:30 PM Rafiki2588: or
8:07:33 PM ctsoccer13: i'm a tech-head--i like technology... and i'll add
drinking into the mix
8:07:58 PM Rafiki2588: hahaha speaking of drinking, my roomie just gave me
a shot glass from mt. rushmore
8:08:03 PM Rafiki2588: if that helps anyone think better...
8:08:16 PM ctsoccer13: ugh... after spring break, the thought of alcohol...
8:08:22 PM Alicia1741: i agree
8:08:23 PM Alicia1741: ugh
8:09:01 PM John: heres the requirements.....

# is large enough to write 8-10 pages about
# holds considerable interest for you, as you will spend a lot of time
researching and writing about the subject
# lends itself to both a written report and an online presentation on your
findings
# is common enough that you will not have trouble locating source of
information
# can be handled as a group project
8:09:51 PM Rafiki2588: Everyone list a proposable topic that interests you
8:09:57 PM Rafiki2588: Such as, building a new airport
8:09:59 PM Rafiki2588: a new resort
8:10:02 PM Rafiki2588: ...
8:10:18 PM ctsoccer13: could we do an 8-10 page report on that though?
8:10:38 PM Rafiki2588: they write 20,000 pages on new airports
8:10:56 PM John: yes... but that is THEM
8:11:03 PM Rafiki2588: think of all the impacts that an airport has on a
community
8:11:08 PM Rafiki2588: economy (commerce)
8:11:12 PM Rafiki2588: tourism
8:11:16 PM Alicia1741: airport... where?
8:11:18 PM Rafiki2588: healthcare (medical flights)(
8:11:20 PM Alicia1741: we have rdu...
8:11:24 PM Rafiki2588: environmental impacts
8:11:38 PM Alicia1741: it's 15 minutes away
8:11:42 PM Rafiki2588: hahahaha i know that was just a suggestion,surely
you guys have interesting topics too
8:11:47 PM Rafiki2588: cuz i know mine aren't
8:12:07 PM ctsoccer13: it'd be cool to do something related to college life
8:12:12 PM Alicia1741: creativity is not my strong point :-\
8:12:18 PM John: well, do ya'll understand exactly what were gonna be
doing with this project?
8:12:21 PM ctsoccer13: i was trying to think around that, but i'm not
coming up with anything substantial
8:12:21 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:12:44 PM ctsoccer13: we're writing a report and doing some sort of
online presentation
8:12:47 PM ctsoccer13: website, perhaps?
8:13:03 PM Alicia1741: that might be cool
8:13:13 PM John: k
8:13:24 PM John: just makin sure were all on the same page
8:14:12 PM ctsoccer13: the effects of a college campus on a city?
8:14:13 PM Rafiki2588: what exactly is the project topic though?  Not
specifics or anything but Are we supposed to follow some sort of topic
selection procedure, does this project have some purpose?  Or can we write
a report on sub-saharran wildlife
8:14:27 PM ctsoccer13: it's very broad
8:14:35 PM Alicia1741:
http://courses.ncsu.edu/eng331/lec/601/course/resources/examples.doc
8:14:40 PM ctsoccer13: almost too broad...
8:14:43 PM John: thats the point of the proposal
8:14:47 PM Alicia1741: go there, she has 3 different examples of what we
can do
8:14:53 PM Rafiki2588: the effect of delinquent college students dragging
down the economy of the local township
8:15:00 PM John: to see if our topic is "worthy"
8:15:11 PM Alicia1741: would we be able to find information on that?
8:15:34 PM ctsoccer13: haha, i just know that raleigh thrives on NCSU
8:15:35 PM Rafiki2588: ok i get it
8:15:48 PM Rafiki2588: so number one seams deathly dull and boring
8:15:51 PM Rafiki2588: 2 and 3 seem cool
8:16:00 PM ctsoccer13: and i'm sure there are other cities that would be
specs on a map without their respsective campuses
8:16:08 PM Alicia1741: yeah
8:16:16 PM ctsoccer13: as for 8-10 pages...
8:16:17 PM Alicia1741: i think colleges probably help the local economy
more than harm it
8:16:18 PM ctsoccer13: i dont know
8:16:20 PM Rafiki2588: like Ann Arbor
8:16:26 PM Rafiki2588: Michigan
8:16:29 PM Alicia1741: dude
8:16:32 PM Alicia1741: are you from there
8:16:34 PM Rafiki2588: no
8:16:38 PM ctsoccer13: lol
8:16:38 PM Alicia1741: lol i'm from the area
8:16:56 PM Rafiki2588: when u subtract University of michigan from Ann
Arbor what is left?
8:17:16 PM ctsoccer13: a bunch of businesses with no customers
8:17:23 PM Rafiki2588: ah
8:17:32 PM Alicia1741: right. but how would we find information on
something like that?
8:17:49 PM ctsoccer13: maybe we should do a more pressing issue
8:18:00 PM John: like?
8:18:01 PM ctsoccer13: like alternate fuel sources or something
8:18:07 PM Rafiki2588: banning of vehicles on the outer banks of north
carolina?
8:18:14 PM John: why?
8:18:22 PM Rafiki2588: on the beaches there is a ton of wildlife
8:18:28 PM Rafiki2588: and the suv's run over it all the time
8:18:31 PM Rafiki2588: that's the argument
8:18:41 PM John: its called road kill
8:18:43 PM Alicia1741: so what would be the alternative to vehicles
8:18:44 PM Rafiki2588: but SUV's on the beach also attracts enormous
numbers of people to go fishing
8:18:49 PM Rafiki2588: walking
8:18:54 PM Alicia1741: lol
8:18:57 PM ctsoccer13: is it supposed to be an argumentative paper or a
report on something?
8:18:58 PM Alicia1741: that's a long walk
8:19:14 PM John: i dont think its an arguement
8:19:27 PM John: so much as just a compilation of reasearch
8:19:27 PM Rafiki2588: we could do a report on the environmental impacts
of [your ideas here[
8:19:32 PM Alicia1741: it can be a research report, or a proposal of some
sort, or a comparative analysis
8:19:44 PM John: airports in densly populated areas
8:19:48 PM Rafiki2588: yeaaaaaaaaaaaa
8:19:52 PM Rafiki2588: i know loads about that stuff
8:20:07 PM ctsoccer13: haha, i'm glad you do... i'd be little help without
google on that one
8:20:14 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:20:16 PM Alicia1741: ditto
8:20:34 PM Rafiki2588: but the point is doing "research for the sake of
research"
8:20:47 PM John: and?
8:20:48 PM ctsoccer13: ah yes... busy work
8:21:01 PM Rafiki2588: that's the definition of project isnt it?
8:21:03 PM Rafiki2588: lol
8:21:12 PM ctsoccer13: we could do a conglomerative paper of all our
interests...
8:21:23 PM ctsoccer13: talk about what the world would be like in 2020 or
something
8:21:37 PM ctsoccer13: with the rate of increasing technology, expanding
population, economies
8:22:11 PM ctsoccer13: and... airpors
8:22:14 PM ctsoccer13: airports*
8:22:15 PM Alicia1741: hahaha
8:22:30 PM John: is that too broad?
8:22:39 PM ctsoccer13: probably... just an idea
8:22:51 PM John: just narrow it down
8:22:54 PM Alicia1741: i kind of liked the idea of fuel efficient cars
8:22:58 PM Alicia1741: it'd be easy
8:23:03 PM Alicia1741: there's tons of stuff out there
8:23:08 PM ctsoccer13: yea, that's a big issue right now
8:23:12 PM Rafiki2588: fuel efficient cars are cool
8:23:13 PM ctsoccer13: with electric, solar, hydrogen
8:23:17 PM ctsoccer13: hybrids
8:23:22 PM Alicia1741: yep
8:23:22 PM ctsoccer13: even air-powered
8:23:30 PM Rafiki2588: i dont know much about them so it'll be cool to
"research them for the sake of research itself"
8:23:41 PM Alicia1741: lol
8:23:48 PM ctsoccer13: as long as it interests you
8:23:56 PM ctsoccer13: otherwise, researching sucks
8:24:20 PM ctsoccer13: such as if i was to research shakesperean poetry
8:24:29 PM ctsoccer13: i'd kill myself
8:24:38 PM Alicia1741: haha yes definitely
8:24:48 PM John: well im down with that idea
8:24:56 PM Rafiki2588: cool
8:25:12 PM Rafiki2588: they use only hydrogen powered busses at Orlando
International airport
8:25:27 PM Alicia1741: one track mind?
8:25:31 PM Rafiki2588: I'm just playin
8:25:32 PM ctsoccer13: lol
8:25:36 PM Alicia1741: haha
8:25:51 PM ctsoccer13: hmm... one of the example proposals is "Alternative
fuel"
8:26:05 PM ctsoccer13: think she'd care?
8:26:12 PM John: nah
8:26:13 PM Rafiki2588: i dunno
8:26:17 PM Rafiki2588: she seems like she wouldnt
8:26:27 PM John: as long as we specify, cars
8:26:32 PM Alicia1741: i don't think so... cause they probably did a
proposal and not a research paper right?
8:26:45 PM ctsoccer13: yea, its an example proposal
8:27:17 PM John: matt, do you remember what we did our group project on in
ENG101?
8:27:20 PM ctsoccer13: when's the proposal due?
8:27:26 PM John: friday
8:27:43 PM Rafiki2588: cool
8:27:47 PM Rafiki2588: um
8:27:48 PM Rafiki2588: no
8:27:56 PM John: alternative energy
8:28:09 PM Rafiki2588: i see my focus hasn't improved
8:28:15 PM John: geothermal, hydroelectric, nuclear, wind
8:28:24 PM John: but that was in power plants
8:28:27 PM John: this is vehicles
8:28:53 PM ctsoccer13: the goal for a lot of the electric cars is to feed
into the power grid during peak hours
8:28:54 PM Rafiki2588: well there's hydrogen, electric, hybrid, air
powered, diesel, gas
8:29:02 PM ctsoccer13: thus pulling from your car when there's a high demand
8:29:21 PM ctsoccer13: not sure how that's related... just stumbled across
it while you were mentioning power plants
8:29:24 PM Alicia1741: ok, if you look at the example that she has of
alternative energy, it's a proposal of replacing fossil fuels with
hydrogen, whereas ours could just be research of all the different
alternatives out there
8:29:50 PM Rafiki2588: ok so we'd be fine using this as the second topic
type "research"
8:30:23 PM ctsoccer13: there's biodiesel too
8:30:25 PM Alicia1741: that's what i'm thinkin
8:30:28 PM ctsoccer13: and ehtanol
8:30:30 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:30:38 PM ctsoccer13: our buses do ethanol-based fuels, i think...
8:30:53 PM Rafiki2588: so we'd could talk about how harvesting the corn to
produce methanol uses more fuel than it produces
8:30:54 PM ctsoccer13: or biodiesel.. one of the two
8:31:07 PM ctsoccer13: yea, i've heard that
8:31:18 PM Rafiki2588: its like negative efficiency
8:31:21 PM ctsoccer13: but, it'd be a good point to make in it
8:31:30 PM Rafiki2588: yea definitely
8:31:41 PM ctsoccer13: hydrogen also takes a lot of fossil fuels to purify
and liquify
8:31:47 PM ctsoccer13: for now, at least
8:31:55 PM Rafiki2588: yup
8:32:20 PM Rafiki2588: and with our current technology its almost
impossible to stick in a regular car because of its storage requirements
8:32:34 PM ctsoccer13: we could talk about the effects of the switching to
these fuels on the automobile industry and major oil companies too
8:32:36 PM Rafiki2588: (hi pressure, lo temp, etc...)
8:32:41 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:32:55 PM ctsoccer13: you know exxon and them would hate it
8:32:58 PM ctsoccer13: and will fight it
8:33:28 PM ctsoccer13: alright... we got the idea, i think
8:33:45 PM Rafiki2588: yea
8:33:50 PM ctsoccer13: lets focus, for now, on divvying up the proposal parts
8:33:58 PM Alicia1741: ok so we need to write 2-3 pages proposing our idea
8:34:11 PM John: and make a schedule
8:34:16 PM Alicia1741: i don't know how we would divide that up?
8:34:31 PM Rafiki2588: Make john do the whole thing by himself
8:34:44 PM ctsoccer13: intro, problem, objective, schedule
8:34:47 PM ctsoccer13: conclusion
8:34:47 PM John: like in ENG1o1
8:34:55 PM ctsoccer13: lol... ouch
8:35:29 PM Rafiki2588: we each jot down some bullet points and someone
strings them all together or we can break it down the way chase said,
though this is a communications class and we would need to adopt a sort of
universal style so it doesnt seem like 5 people wrote it
8:35:41 PM John: QQ... whens everyone free thursday night?
8:36:05 PM Rafiki2588: im free all night thursday after 415
8:36:14 PM Alicia1741: i have class till 8:45
8:36:20 PM Alicia1741: so.. 9
8:36:47 PM Alicia1741: but i have 2 tests on friday too
8:36:50 PM Alicia1741: sooo... thursday sucks
8:36:51 PM Alicia1741: lol
8:36:55 PM John: wednesday?
8:36:59 PM Alicia1741: mucho better
8:37:07 PM John: tiempo?
8:37:08 PM Rafiki2588: i can do wednesday any time after 415
8:37:09 PM ctsoccer13: done at 5:30 on wed
8:37:20 PM Alicia1741: anytime after 5
8:37:20 PM John: how bout this.....
8:37:49 PM ctsoccer13: such suspense...
8:38:04 PM Rafiki2588: u write the whole thing by yourself
8:38:05 PM John: we each do some research and write our own mini proposal,
get together on wednesday, and combine them
8:38:05 PM Rafiki2588: ?
8:38:06 PM Rafiki2588: lol
8:38:15 PM Alicia1741: i think that sounds good
8:38:22 PM Rafiki2588: k
8:38:23 PM ctsoccer13: works for me
8:38:26 PM ctsoccer13: what time on wed
8:38:29 PM John: 7?
8:38:36 PM Rafiki2588: k
8:38:37 PM Alicia1741: sure
8:38:54 PM ctsoccer13: works
8:38:57 PM John: as a recap, our exact topic is?
8:39:17 PM Alicia1741: researching alternative energy for automobiles
8:39:18 PM Rafiki2588: alternative fuel powered cars
8:39:25 PM Rafiki2588: damn she beat me to it
8:39:28 PM Alicia1741: haha
8:39:29 PM John: LOSER
8:39:30 PM Alicia1741: yesssss
8:39:38 PM Rafiki2588:
8:39:55 PM ctsoccer13: alright, i got dinner calling my name
8:40:00 PM John: enjoy
8:40:01 PM ctsoccer13: see you all on wed
8:40:04 PM Alicia1741: alright guys, 7 on wednesday
8:40:04 PM Rafiki2588: later
8:40:05 PM Alicia1741: bye



Topic for proposal: Alternative fuels in vehicles

HW: write a mini-proposal to discuss and combine with others at next meeting

Next Meeting: Wednesday 3/11/09 @ 7PM

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Toucans Meeting 1

06:32PM Mar 22, 2009 in category General by Danielle Paldino

7:46 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER has entered the room.
7:46 PM: MATTHEW MORAN has entered the room.
7:47 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: hey
7:47 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO has entered the room.
7:47 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: hey!
7:47 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: hello!
7:48 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: how's life treatin you guys?
7:49 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: pretty good, ready for spring break :) and you?
7:49 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: when is spring break anyway?
7:49 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: tomorrow!!!!
7:49 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: heck yes!
7:49 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: im out of dodge in less than 18 hours, im psyched
about it
7:49 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: lol, rly?
7:49 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: I just got the chat invite on AOL.
7:50 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: hahaha John's on his way over here i think
7:50 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: yeah he just sent me an invite to another
chatroom, i told him we're all in here though
7:50 PM: JOHN BIGHAM has entered the room.
7:51 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Okay, i think were good now
7:51 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: alrighty anyone thought of any team names?
7:51 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: nope
7:51 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: hmmm... no idea
7:51 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: haha, no.
7:52 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: go for it matt...
7:52 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: Why me? I always gotta do everything :( lol
7:52 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: haha i'm thinking i'm thinking
7:53 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: wolfpack related? or just lame: Team 1
7:53 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: Boston Redsox? New England PAtriots?
7:53 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: Boston bruins?
7:53 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: Eagles?
7:53 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: i like eagles
7:53 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Those are taken matt...
7:53 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: as long as they arent the philly eagles
7:54 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: I'm... not telling
7:54 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: lol
7:54 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: means yes...
7:54 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: hahahaha that works
7:54 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: i dont think our grade is gonna be totally
dependent on the name...
7:54 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: TEAM TOUCAN!!!
7:54 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: ok
7:54 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: cool bird
7:55 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: lol. Toucan Sam?
7:55 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: toucans. i like!
7:55 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: alright then
7:55 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: was Zazu in "the lionking" a toucan?
7:55 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: yes
7:55 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: he was
7:55 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: sweet
7:55 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Team 1: Toucans
7:55 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: that goes w/ my aim screen name and i love that movie
7:55 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: done
7:56 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: sound good?
7:56 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: haha works for me
7:56 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: fine w/me
7:56 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: ok
7:56 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: has anyone thought of what we can do the
project on?
7:56 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: nope
7:56 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: it's very broad. makes it kind of hard
7:56 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: i've only looked at week 8
7:57 PM: MATTHEW MORAN has left the room.
7:57 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: it'd be easy if we did something current--
economy related-- with regards to research, since there's so many opinions
out there right now.
7:58 PM: MATTHEW MORAN has entered the room.
7:58 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: sure
7:58 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: that's a good idea
7:58 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: well, we need a leader and coordinator for each
assignment, who wants to be what for this one?
7:58 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: but what would we do with it? Housing crisis?
7:59 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: do we?
7:59 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: yea
8:00 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: go to the schedule on the website and it tells
everything we need to get done this meeting
8:00 PM: MATTHEW MORAN has entered the room.
8:00 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: for each assignment, you mean the proposal,
then the presentation, final project, etc.
8:00 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: Coordinator: Create proposal schedule and cost
section
8:00 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: hi again
8:00 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: Leader: Research and write problem statement
and objectives; submit team proposal
8:00 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: what did i miss?
8:01 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: trying to figure out who the leader &
coordinator will be for the proposal
8:01 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: ohhhh.... I didn't even see that part, lol
8:01 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: what does it mean, cost section?
8:01 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: cost analysis of our proposal?
8:02 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: ah ok
8:02 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: What shall we propose? Let'
8:02 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: well i'll be the leader if no one else wants to
for this
8:02 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: yeah, I didn't really get that either. why
would it cost anything.
8:02 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: i'm lost
8:02 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: ok, Alicia is Leader this week
8:02 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: well if we're proposing something like an new
airport or a new company of some kind it'll cost something maybe
8:03 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: right
8:03 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: oh, gotcha. Not cost to us, but cost to the
"company".
8:03 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: yea
8:04 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: where do you see the "cost section"?
8:05 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER:
http://courses.ncsu.edu/eng331/lec/601/course/instructions/firstmeeting.html
8:05 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: at the bottom under Responsibilites
8:06 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: we need to set up a blog... fun
8:06 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: anyone else have an opinion on doing this on
the housing crisis?
8:06 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: oh, those bottom charts are just example, they dont
necessarily apply to our project
8:07 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: good, we can just use e-mail. it'd probably be
easier
8:08 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: So she'll be fine with that, if we just email
around sections and stuff? I know she's mentioned blog a few times on her
website, tho. I'd rather email if it's all the same to y'all.
8:08 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: you mean instead of this?
8:08 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: Nah, instead of setting up a blog or a facebook
group, or any of that stuff.
8:08 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: no, just so we all have a copy of what's been
written so that when we sign onto here we can all refer to it
8:09 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: i think that's what she meant for the blog
8:09 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: oh yea
8:09 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: what proposal do you have in mind that relates or
addresses the current housing crisis?
8:09 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: well we need a topic that we will we be able to do
an 8 to 10 page paper and an online report on
8:10 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: also.... we still need a coordinator for this meeting
8:10 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: it would be a research report... #2 on
http://courses.ncsu.edu/eng331/lec/601/course/resources/examples.doc
8:10 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: None.... maybe we can take a few days and think
of potential topics. It doesn't have to necessarily be a proposal, it can
just be a research-type paper, right? So long as it's interesting.
8:10 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: right. i'm cool with doing a proposal though too
8:11 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: the proposal that she's talking about is just a
proposal about what we want to do for the project
8:11 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: oh we're writing a proposal to her proposing our
topic of choice for the final project
8:11 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: lol
8:11 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: yea
8:11 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: yes
8:11 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: lol, yeah
8:11 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: haha yeah i was confused about that too at first
8:12 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: a proposal (for the final paper) seems like
it'd be more interesting to write. Though not necessarily easier.
8:12 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: right. well maybe if we do like you suggested
and take a few days to think about it we can come up with something
8:12 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: ok
8:13 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: just in everyday life, i'm sure we all say
"they need to change this"
8:13 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: lol
8:13 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: Course we could always propose something
completely nuts and improbable, like the state buys foreclosed properties
and rents them back to low-income people or something.
8:14 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: ok well this proposal isnt due until the second
week of march so we've got loads of time to think and bounce ideas off of
eachother
8:14 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: aright, well how about we plan a meeting 2
time, so we can all go watch the game.
8:14 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: DAnielle your idea sounds cool and novel, it
doesnt have to be feasible
8:14 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: :)
8:15 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: haha that works
8:15 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: Shall we meet again here on monday the 9th?
8:15 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: works for me
8:15 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: waiiit, thats 4 days b4 the due date
8:15 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: will that give us enough time to write it?
8:15 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: yeah
8:15 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: haha
8:15 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: when do you get back from your trip?
8:16 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: I'll be here all week!! lol
8:16 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: lol i'll be here thursday on
8:16 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: I wont be back until that sunday the 8th
8:16 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: well, i wont be able to meet from the 1 to the 7
8:16 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: lol
8:16 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: way for her to schedule something during spring
break...
8:16 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: if its double spaced we have more than enough time
to write it in four days
8:17 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: lol
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: how long does it have to be?
8:17 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: 8-10
8:17 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: 2-3***
8:17 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: thats not the proposal
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: that's the project
8:17 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: Ok, the 9th it'll have to be. the proposal's
only a few pages, I thought.
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: lol
8:17 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: yea
8:17 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: done
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: sounds good
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: a time?
8:17 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: 2-3 we can totally do that quickly.
8:17 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: ok 9th at 8pm?
8:17 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: works for me
8:17 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: that'll be fine
8:18 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: matt?
8:18 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: someone try to send out a reminder email that
day, plz?
8:18 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: yea
8:18 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: yea 9th is great
8:18 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: ok, lemme recap.....
8:18 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Team1: Toucans
8:18 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Prposal Leader, Alicia
8:19 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: I'll be coordinator
8:19 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: and I'll supervise ;)
8:19 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: Meeting, Monday March 9th at 8pm
8:19 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: I'll just provide moral support.
8:19 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: sweet
8:19 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: game time
8:19 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: meeting on here again, right?
8:19 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: yep
8:19 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: sounds good
8:19 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: alright, talk to you all then!
8:20 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: i'll post this transcript on what?
8:20 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: hopefully chase will be here then too...
8:20 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: i'll email this to everyone and post it on WolfBLogs
8:20 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: Send it around to email? Is that acceptable? Or
do we have to post it somewhere for her to see?
8:20 PM: MATTHEW MORAN: cant we email it to her
8:21 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: i'll find out, for now, i'll email it to the group
and post it on the blog
8:21 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: alright that should be fine
8:21 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: ya, sounds good
8:21 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: alright then.i guess thats it
8:21 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: aright, later
8:22 PM: JOHN BIGHAM: have a good night
8:22 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER: you too buhbye
8:22 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO: you too! go state1
8:22 PM: DANIELLE PALDINO has left the room.
8:22 PM: ALICIA BIERINGER has left the room.
8:23 PM: MATTHEW MORAN has left the room.
8:27 PM: JOHN BIGHAM has left the room.



SUMMARY:

Team Name - Toucans

Proposal Leader - Alicia

Proposal Coordinator - John

Next Meeting - March 9th @ 8PM

Do before next meeting... Think of possible ideas for proposal

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